To say the least. And it likely won’t end soon. From the LA Times: His most immediate issue is with Walt Disney Co., which is distributing "Apocalypto" and which also, through its ABC television network, has a development deal with his company to make a miniseries about the Holocaust.
The Los Angeles Times story does note Hollywood’s ability to forgive those who sexually abuse children. (LA Times) Ari Emanuel, a powerful Hollywood agent, wrote “People in the entertainment community, whether Jew or gentile, need to demonstrate that they understand how much is at stake in this by professionally shunning Mel Gibson and refusing to work with him, even if it means a sacrifice to their bottom line.” Caution, there’s foul language in the post.
Ari Emanuel also happens to be Michael Moore’s agent. (Huffington Post) Others don’t believe his career is over. (AP) From ABC News: "You know, I'm not a done deal. I'm a work in progress," Gibson said in 2004. "And I'm extremely flawed. And I better continue to think that way, too, because — because it's the truth." (ABC News)
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Personally, I lost all respect for Gibson back when he said that only Catholics can be saved, and this latest episode just confirms my opinion of him. Then again, he is a Traditionalist Catholic, and to be honest, I have never in my life had a positive experience interacting with one of them. "Modernist Catholics" (ie 95% of the Catholic church) however, I have had a positive to negative experience ratio similar to any other denomination of Christianity.
I encourge you to look into the historical Catholic teaching of salvation outside the church. Not what Mel says. Most people are offended before they understand what it really says.
I feel bad for Mel. I think he in a dark part of his life right now. I pray he finds his way out of it.
I think your comments about Traditionalist Catholics is an unfair statement. How many times in these blogs and other places are non-Catholic Christians saying that Catholics won't be saved. Let he who is without sin cast the first stone.
Plus, Mr. Gibson isn't speaking for all Catholics, Traditionalists or otherwise.
I think your comments about Traditionalist Catholics is an unfair statement.
Tough. I am speaking from my experience, and I even qualified that my statement is from experience. When one comes along and proves me wrong, I'll change my tune. However, every single Traditionalist I've EVER spoken to has been disrespectful, arrogant, and most have been combative and have actually seemed to be taking joy in the fact that they believe "Protestants" are going to hell.
How many times in these blogs and other places are non-Catholic Christians saying that Catholics won't be saved.
Have I? No!!! I know several Catholics who I believe are saved! So I guess you could say that I am "without sin" in this area.
Plus, Mr. Gibson isn't speaking for all Catholics, Traditionalists or otherwise.
Did I say he was? Again, No! So quit with the straw man arguments.
If my comments sounded harsh, it is because one thing that really chaps me is people who have the nerve to declare me "Unsaved" or "Hellbound" because I'm not part of their particulal denomination. Something every single Traditionalist I've ever met or read has stated, and often with glee.
You defending Gibson on this point would be like me defending Jack Chick his statements about Catholics, something I would never THINK of doing.
How many times in these blogs and other places are non-Catholic Christians saying that Catholics won't be saved.
No where is this original post or in any reply was there a question specifically directed about the salvation of anyone.
There was a lament as to personal experience with a subset of a 'type' of religious person. This lament was given the counsel of seeking a doctrinal position rather than the opinion of a single man (which is good advice).
You've complained about painting with a broad brush by painting with the same brush.
Most non-Catholic christians have also been disrespectful, arrogant and combative towards a lot of the Catholics in this website and others, so it works both ways.
The bottom line is everyone needs to grow up.
"Most" you say.
However, with Traditionalists, my experience has been "All".
Sorry, I meant 99.9 percent of Non-Catholics showed nasty attitutes towards Catholics.
I have made this comment before - no one responds to any other comments posted here except for ones like you see here dealing with Catholics vs. Non-Catholic issues, how very sad.
Anon - these are the ONLY issues you whine and complain about - futher more it has been shown that YOU brought up the subject.
To quote you: "grow up"
Sorry, I meant 99.9 percent of Non-Catholics showed nasty attitutes towards Catholics.
Yeah, I highly doubt that figure.
There are several people who have been "whining and complaining" here from what I see, and I agree with the person or persons who have remarked about the comments being directed to Catholic/NonCatholic issues.
All Non-Catholics in other web sites that I've been in say that Catholics aren't saved, which I find to be untrue. Its sad that christians have to be so unkind towards each other.
Then I suggest you expand your horizons, because in my experience, being that I run in those circles, that isn't the norm. Maybe not search out the Jack Chick type web sites.
Unfortunately it is the norm, I've been in other websites, one in particular is really bad. Its unfortunate that we can't bridge the gaps between Catholics and Non-Catholics.
How did you guys get into a debate over religion when the blog was discussing Mel Gibson and the comments he made when he got arrested????
Why doesn't anyone comment on some of the other items listed here, I happened to notice that this particular item had the most responses.
Unfortunately it is the norm
I'm sorry, but that is just outright completely laughable. You have an unrepresentative sample that you are taking as the norm. VERY few hold the Jack Chick type view of Catholics can't be saved. Non-Catholics don't agree with the Catholic Church on some matters of faith, but that is a far cry from saying Catholics who put their faith in Christ aren't saved.
I've been in other websites, one in particular is really bad.
What's the address? Post it! Is it Rand's site, by chance?
Its unfortunate that we can't bridge the gaps between Catholics and Non-Catholics.
True, but Catholics are as much to blame as Non-Catholics. I can't tell you how many times I've been called a "heretic", or a "heretical prot", etc. Or that the only way to bridge the gap, as you put it, is for everyone to become Catholic, which just isn't going to happen.
Why doesn't anyone comment...
As I've said COUNTLESS times before, FEEL FREE!!! Personally, I think it would get kind of boring to continuously type "I agree" in every other post's comments.
I didn't mean that everyone should become Catholic, I was talking about us agreeing on what we have in common, Non-Catholics feel that Catholics should conform to them, so it goes both ways.
As for comments about the other blogs mentioned here,I've responded countless times, and not with "I agree" I'm sure most people can do better than that. I agree with anon. who said that
no one responds a lot unless it deals with controversy dealing with religions.
What sparked a religious debate over Mel Gibson's comments anyway.
Can't we all just get along?
Amen to you Rodney King, why can't we get along????
We are certainly a poor example of what Christians should act lile.
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