Members of a Presbyterian megachurch in Tulsa, Okla., have decided overwhelmingly to withdraw from the Presbyterian Church (U.S.A.), agencies reported this week, making it the largest congregation to do so.Just over one-thousand members of Kirk of the Hills Presbyterian Church turned out and voted 967-to-36 to affirm a vote by church elders to leave, the Associated Press reported Thursday.
On his personal web log, Rev. Thomas W. Gray explained the reason for separating from the PCUSA. "We at the Kirk are holding to what Scripture clearly teaches," he said, according to the Presbyterian News Service. "The PCUSA has left this critical foundation. We, therefore, no longer recognize the authority of the PCUSA over any congregation that chooses to hold to the traditional authority of Scripture, as once held by the PCUSA."
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what does priests syping on the Pope have to do with this article?
Nothing but I'll comment anyway. I'm not surprised. The Pope is always held up as almost a leader of a country.
I've said this before, if you really want to attack the Church, do it from the inside out.
Think about it. We have clergy that are pro-choice, pro-homosexuality. They abuse children, they edit scripture to fit the cause they try to confuse and distort the truth.
I have no doubt the Pope is, was and always will be spied on and watched. He has a voice others despise.
For those not familiar with the Presbyterian Church USA, the national denomination “takes” the local church property in the event that the church leaves the PC (USA).
This has resulted in numerous court challenges around the county, and is the “big stick” used by the denomination to keep the sheep in the PC (USA) fold.
I expect to see more churches leaving the denomination and more court challenges as the PC (USA) continues its leftist drift.
In regard to Rob's response. I don't understand how you can say that the Catholic church never has bad things reported about them. When the sexual abuse scandal was going on the papers printed the same things over and over, it was even on 60 min. just a few days ago a priest from a south hills parish was in the news being accused to stealing parish money. I feel Catholics are bashed and everything we do is analyzed.
As for Marty Minto, you would have to be deaf not to hear the hostility in his voice when he talked about Catholicism, in fact, I heard a person call him on the phone and tell him so, he seemed to thrive on causing dissention among faiths which I think is terrible being that he was a pastor himself. As for what he said about the Pope, would he have said the same thing if Billy Graham had died, I think not.
I feel that Christians should try to bridge gaps instead of creating more, we all have a common demoninator, Jesus.
I have never read anything in this blog bashing Non-Catholic Christians, I think Shaun has a fair site going on here and I think we should keep it that way.
I'll say one thing on this and that's it.
I always try to be fair. I defend my faith but I also know there are some wackos who claim to be Catholic.
I reported on the women "priests". I reported on the sexual abuse of children (BTW anyone who abuses a child is a crimianl not a Christian)
I've even been critcal of Archbisop Wurel.
There are several more examples I could sight.
My post on the Presby church was meant to applaud them. It's great that some would take a stand, risk property and be willing to leave for the sake of truth.
I will always push for true understanding of the Catholic faith. It where the Holy Spirit has led me. For that I will not appoligize. If I miss a story here or there know that I do not have any ill intent.
I want this always to a be fair. That's why I don't screen comments. (unless extremly offensive). I welcome any and all to post ideas, thoughts, topics.
Rob,
Thanks for the update on church property. I believe that Presbyterian churches had to vote to commit their property to the trust in order to remain in the denomination. This pre-dates my involvement, but I think that this was in the late ‘70’s or early ‘80’s. Several folks serving on session at our church at that time have made reference to this vote over the years. This vote may have occurred when some of the Presbyterian denominations combined around that same time frame.
Anyway, yes, this issue is certainly an impediment to those PC (USA) churches who would now desire to leave the denomination.
Trolls should be left under the bridge where they belong.
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